Phoenix

by **Metropolisforever** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:27 pm

Are some issues shonen, and some shojo, and some other genres?

That sounds interesting; I'll have to get that.

by **cmoon** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:14 am

No. Phoenix is phoenix. It doesn't really compare to either of those--it isn't genrefied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(manga)

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/ ... the-future

http://www.thegline.com/book-of-the-wee ... 3-2002.htm

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/arno ... 69,00.html

For me. Phoenix is probably my favorite works by Tezuka (though there are other great pinacles). It is an incredible work of science fiction, social dialog, philosophy and contemplation about the ultimate fate of humanity. Future and Karma in particular rank as my favorite graphic novels of all time! Nostalgia is also a personal favorite of mine that is enormously forward looking.

Phoenix is definitely an adult work though, and of that epic and even depressing calibur that may not appeal to you. This is really thought provoking stuff that demands an intelligent and thoughtful reader who can deal with a world filled with evils and suffering--trying to find that one hole through the many traps of corruption, greed, agression and ignorance for the salvation of all humanity.

Heavy stuff indeed!

by **Metropolisforever** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:23 am

How come there's a "Manga Shonen version", a "Shojo Club version", and what's with all the versions?

by **cmoon** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:31 am

In the US there aren't different versions. I have no clue what you're talking about.

by **strobe_z** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:55 pm

I can explain this...

Tezuka first wrote a story called The Phoenix: Dawn shortly after he finished writing Jungle Emperor Leo... this is the Manga Shonen version.
It's an unfinished story because the magazine Manga Shonen was cancelled at a mid-point during the serialization. As far as I know, it's never been reprinted because it ended with no warning.

http://en-f.tezuka.co.jp/manga/sakuhin/ ... 35_01.html

Then he wrote three "Phoenix" stories called - Egypt, Greece, Rome.
These are stories which feature the Phoenix, but are geared to a much younger audience. They're not really part of the "true" Phoenix series. They're basically "typical" (a relative term with Tezuka) adventures stories that were printed in Shojo Club <Girl's Comic> (and a volume I've been looking for quite diligently in Korea!) - for these ones think "Phoenix Lite"

http://en-f.tezuka.co.jp/manga/sakuhin/ ... 39_01.html

After that, Tezuka fleshed out the Phoenix concept and published the series that Viz has been releasing in North America in the magazine called "COM". This is the phoenix series we know and love.

As cmoon said though, Phoenix is much more similar to Buddha than to say, Astro Boy. It's complex and has a lot of themes that may be over some younger reader's heads. That's not to say that you shouldn't read it if you want to, but be warned that you may not like it on your first pass through.

Reminds me of the time when I was 12 and just finished reading Lord of the Rings for the first time, I bought the Silmarillion at the bookstore and an "old" guy (must've been 30 at least!

) told me that it might be over my head. I was shocked and apalled that he'd say that... until I tried to read it. I finally tackled it last Christmas... and I'm still not sure I got it all... :oops:

by **Metropolisforever** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:29 pm

by **cmoon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:14 pm

by **Metropolisforever** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:12 pm

by **cmoon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:32 pm

Some volumes are all only recently out of print. And those amazon prices can be ignored. Lots of the volumes are in print for only $10.

You should probably start with #2 anyway, and that volume is only $8 used.

by **Metropolisforever** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:36 pm

by **cmoon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:41 pm

by **Metropolisforever** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:44 pm

I thought I was supposed to start with #1.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Phoenix-Dawn-by-Osa ... dZViewItem

Super expensive manga for rich people.

by **cmoon** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:54 pm

by **strobe_z** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:03 am

by **Metropolisforever** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:18 pm

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